tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post6633647555482222621..comments2023-10-26T05:03:32.201+13:00Comments on BIG NEWS: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-59550152117760089272009-11-17T02:31:58.731+13:002009-11-17T02:31:58.731+13:00Great story as for me. I'd like to read a bit ...Great story as for me. I'd like to read a bit more about that matter.<br />By the way look at the design I've made myself <a href="http://www.admirableescorts.com/young_escorts_london.html" rel="nofollow">Young escorts</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-69211238212863286162009-10-22T00:51:06.989+13:002009-10-22T00:51:06.989+13:00That's my point dave.
It's even worse for...That's my point dave.<br /><br />It's even worse for Labour to use the government to promote a Party conference.<br /><br />Presumably Rodney will go using his MP's travel allowance, which he is freely allowed to use for private travel, rather than ministerial.<br /><br />If you want to discuss getting rid of travel arrangements too, I'll support you, but that's a side issue.peteremcchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02675527971846060507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-48508015244348112902009-10-21T23:16:57.587+13:002009-10-21T23:16:57.587+13:00Someone should stick an OIA in to Ministerial Serv...Someone should stick an OIA in to Ministerial Services to find out who's paying for the Act contingent's flights...<br /><br />...oh, wait.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06728572650611483818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-45386893165213079802009-10-21T22:31:16.678+13:002009-10-21T22:31:16.678+13:00If the taxpayer is paying for the Minister to trav...If the taxpayer is paying for the Minister to travel to the meeting, then he is speaking in his capacity as a Minister of the Crown.<br /><br />If the Act party leader wants to speak at a private Act Party meeting, he can pay for his own travel.Swampynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-17427226549862231372009-10-21T21:58:37.621+13:002009-10-21T21:58:37.621+13:00Ignorant, more than innocent.
Look, the point is...Ignorant, more than innocent.<br /><br />Look, the point isn't whether Hide can speak as a minister or as a party leader at a party event, its that Hide purported to speak as party leader at a party function, but his party advertised his ministerial role and targeted non- party people interested in his ministerial responsibilities and said they`d be charged if they turned up to listen at that event. Even Hide admitted that was inappropriate, and he is right.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-69544978574836114422009-10-21T21:54:39.426+13:002009-10-21T21:54:39.426+13:00I think you'll find Dave that this is hardly B...I think you'll find Dave that this is hardly Big News - but more kerb crawling :)<br /><br />This happens for all parties, and bringing it up to try and smite the ACT party isn't helpful at all. Especially as it was innocent.Just my opinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16614554113040355062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-1819229358860150292009-10-21T21:16:53.059+13:002009-10-21T21:16:53.059+13:00Peter, I had a look at the media release - apparen...Peter, I had a look at the media release - apparently it was released by the NZ Government,not the Labour Party. Rodney's pamphlet was released by a local branch of the ACT party.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-17977559455044978642009-10-21T21:07:07.610+13:002009-10-21T21:07:07.610+13:00Adolf,
I specifically said the meeting was organi...Adolf, <br />I specifically said the meeting was organised by the local ACT fundraising co-ordinator. Meh.<br /><br />Heine, <br />I like democracy, actually. Other than what I have already posted, I should add that I agree with Rodney Hide who said it was a mistake for ACT to advertise that way and it should not happen again.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-48742930698172392842009-10-21T21:06:02.295+13:002009-10-21T21:06:02.295+13:00Also, Dave.
I'm the ACT on Campus Vice Presid...Also, Dave.<br /><br />I'm the ACT on Campus Vice President.<br /><br />Does that mean that whenever I comment on here I'm speaking as the VP?<br /><br />Or am I allowed to speak in a personal capacity too?peteremcchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02675527971846060507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-740855827802406472009-10-21T21:05:17.382+13:002009-10-21T21:05:17.382+13:00Just did a quick google search and look what was t...Just did a quick google search and look what was the first result:<br /><br />http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0011/S00323.htm<br /><br />That would be a speech by the Prime Minister, to a Labour Party Conference, introduced as:<br /><br />Rt Hon Helen Clark<br />Prime Minister<br /><br />KEYNOTE ADDRESS TO<br />LABOUR PARTY CONFERENCE<br /><br />Not even introduced as “Helen Clark, Labour Leader and Prime Minister”, as Rodney was mentioned in the pamphlet. No, just “Prime Minister”, her ministerial position.<br /><br />Now, we’re people charged to come to this conference at all?peteremcchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02675527971846060507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-56702392380960371942009-10-21T21:01:03.215+13:002009-10-21T21:01:03.215+13:00So what you're saying is that an MP who may ha...So what you're saying is that an MP who may have a certain responsibility, is NOT allowed to discuss it at a party function to their own members over dinner and a few drinks?<br /><br />I think you might be surprised but ACT members don't get confused that Rodney is our leader. In fact we are quite proud he is an Honorable Member of the house. Rodney is speaking to his members and telling them about what he is up to. <br /><br />I know you don't like ACT, given your comments about them in the past - but this is possibly one of your worst and inaccurate posts about him yet. You trying for a job on a red top newspaper?Just my opinionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16614554113040355062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-60502588053324123932009-10-21T20:53:51.066+13:002009-10-21T20:53:51.066+13:00Dave, you're dreaming. The party organised th...Dave, you're dreaming. The party organised the meeting, not the Department. Hell, I'm not even a member of ACT but I can see through this pathetic beat up.Adolf Fiinkenseinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08045358863278087055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-33999906548250313632009-10-21T20:49:45.113+13:002009-10-21T20:49:45.113+13:00Peter, C- for spinning... (taking into account you...Peter, C- for spinning... (taking into account your hard work). The cover has the Hon Rodney Hide in capitals. Like, he's a minister.The notation as ACT party leader is not as prominent. Inside, the fact that he is the party leader is not separated from his ministerial role. On purpose. I never said on the blog that the meeting was public. Perhaps you read that somewhere else.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-11781403229963243462009-10-21T20:30:42.104+13:002009-10-21T20:30:42.104+13:00Its not a public meeting Dave, its an ACT meeting....Its not a public meeting Dave, its an ACT meeting.<br /><br />The organiser invited the region's councilors because last time Rodney spoke to a Canterbury ACT meeting, the councilors complained that they WEREN'T invited.<br /><br />Also, the leaflet you link to clearly shows him as "ACT Leader" on the cover and only once inside the leaflet mentions him as the "ACT Leader and Minister of Local Government".peteremcchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02675527971846060507noreply@blogger.com