tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post8871751811234690536..comments2023-10-26T05:03:32.201+13:00Comments on BIG NEWS: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-64220748826141870712008-11-26T09:53:00.000+13:002008-11-26T09:53:00.000+13:00Yeah, correct. fixed. thxYeah, correct. fixed. thxSwimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-38577944119923226522008-11-26T09:31:00.000+13:002008-11-26T09:31:00.000+13:00I think you got your concurrent and cumulative aro...I think you got your concurrent and cumulative around the wrong way in your last sentence.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise you make an important point very well. The scandal is the delay in getting criminal cases to trial. Offences on bail are merely a reflection of the contempt with which criminals now regard the system. <BR/>If the judges were thumping offenders who offend on bail, for the obvious contempt it shows, bail could be more readily available to those who do not offend on bail.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-26659734861829106002008-11-26T00:00:00.000+13:002008-11-26T00:00:00.000+13:00The "8 out of 10" times was just referring to the ...The "8 out of 10" times was just referring to the applications granted by the judge. It does not include the ones that the judge also did not approve. In other words the judge and the police only agreed in 20 percent of approved cases. I'm starting to wonder if police would even be able to correctly administer a basic template.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-77476852363807449202008-11-25T23:50:00.000+13:002008-11-25T23:50:00.000+13:00As you said in your post the cops oppose bail 8 ti...As you said in your post the cops oppose bail 8 times out of 10. I guess it is their job to keep the streets free of crime. Simplistic way to express it I know. But a template would fix this. If the accused fits into the bail denied half of the template then that is the way it is. There appears to be far too much subjective decision making, I would like to see this reduced.Barnsley Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00404836788413532830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-62817413142607622532008-11-25T23:23:00.000+13:002008-11-25T23:23:00.000+13:00And how many of these bailed individuals who commi...And how many of these bailed individuals who commit crimes were electronically monitored? It's not the judges who are the problem, its the police - they don't assess risk very well.Swimminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12913329810121951824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6671521.post-24815463798170795652008-11-25T23:17:00.000+13:002008-11-25T23:17:00.000+13:00I have a good deal of sympathy for the point you a...I have a good deal of sympathy for the point you are trying to make Dave, but time and time again we are seeing bailed individuals commit terrible crimes. Perhaps crimes involving violence need to be treated by degree of offending when considering bail. I know we have this now but if the judges and magistrates are issued with firm rules then the guesswork can be taken out of it and people like me will stop cursing the judiciary.Barnsley Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00404836788413532830noreply@blogger.com